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Canadmos
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Posted - 03/07/2007 :  10:47:13 AM   Bookmark this reply Add Canadmos to your friends list Show Profile Send Canadmos an AOL message Click to see Canadmos's MSN Messenger address Send Canadmos a Private Message Reply with Quote
A barrel roll like the ones on the Vekoma SLC's? Or one like this; http://rcdb.com/ig1076.htm?picture=5
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coaster992001
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Posted - 04/22/2007 :  8:23:02 PM   Bookmark this reply Add coaster992001 to your friends list Show Profile Send coaster992001 a Private Message Reply with Quote
ok: question. i can't figure this thing out to save my life. i convert to k/hr and still it come up with error messages. can i heartline any kind of track segment (lift, transport, etc) or does it have to be track? can i create an entire ride as an element then upload it? but then why can't i upload elements? an someone please give me a detailed very step by step giude to using it. thanks!
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dcs221
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Posted - 04/22/2007 :  8:30:48 PM   Bookmark this reply Add dcs221 to your friends list Show Profile Send dcs221 a Private Message Reply with Quote
The readme usually helps.
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Austin
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Posted - 04/22/2007 :  8:52:53 PM   Bookmark this reply Add Austin to your friends list Show Profile Send Austin an AOL message Click to see Austin's MSN Messenger address Send Austin a Yahoo! Message Send Austin a Private Message Reply with Quote
lol
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coaster992001
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Posted - 04/22/2007 :  9:20:41 PM   Bookmark this reply Add coaster992001 to your friends list Show Profile Send coaster992001 a Private Message Reply with Quote
yeah, sure it does. i've tried several readme's and at least 4 tutorials by now and i can't figure it out. i just went step by step on one of them and it sayed the train valleyed. what does that even mean? the train is going 80 mph at the start of the ride and 25 at the end, converted to metric, divided by 3.6, didnt work!
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dcs221
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Posted - 04/22/2007 :  9:57:57 PM   Bookmark this reply Add dcs221 to your friends list Show Profile Send dcs221 a Private Message Reply with Quote
Then color everything black, AHG once with a heartline of 0. Make sure your segment number will give you 10-17 foot long segments in the editor. Use 100 for V in and out. Go back and bank everything by hand, then re-AHG with a nonzero heartline height (unless you want your final track to be unheartlined). Make sure to end up with 4-6 foot long segments in the editor.

That's the procedure I use. No fighting with speeds necessary.
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coaster992001
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Posted - 04/23/2007 :  5:42:37 PM   Bookmark this reply Add coaster992001 to your friends list Show Profile Send coaster992001 a Private Message Reply with Quote
that got it to actually heartline it, BUT now it has a massive bump half way down the hill. i have no idea where that came from (?)
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CoastaGuy
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Posted - 04/23/2007 :  5:47:03 PM   Bookmark this reply Add CoastaGuy to your friends list Show Profile Send CoastaGuy a Private Message Reply with Quote
Well, you either didn't colour that part black or it's just too rough to begin with. Remeber, AHG magnifies most bumps.
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dcs221
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Posted - 04/23/2007 :  5:47:32 PM   Bookmark this reply Add dcs221 to your friends list Show Profile Send dcs221 a Private Message Reply with Quote
Is the drop near vertical? If so make that section white, then AHG.

Edited by - dcs221 on 04/23/2007 5:48:28 PM
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mandarin92
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Posted - 07/31/2007 :  5:11:03 PM   Bookmark this reply Add mandarin92 to your friends list Show Profile Send mandarin92 a Private Message Reply with Quote
I got every thing down pack with th AHG,but when i make loops they turn out to be messed up.I need help knowing what part to color code.
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Canadmos
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Posted - 07/31/2007 :  5:37:07 PM   Bookmark this reply Add Canadmos to your friends list Show Profile Send Canadmos an AOL message Click to see Canadmos's MSN Messenger address Send Canadmos a Private Message Reply with Quote
When doing a loop, don't use any colours on it (except for any filter settings you want). Just make sure there is positive g's at the top and let the AHG do the work of banking it for you.
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phanoity
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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  9:16:41 PM   Bookmark this reply Add phanoity to your friends list Show Profile Send phanoity an AOL message Send phanoity a Private Message Reply with Quote
^I am still confused by that. What do you mean filter settings. When i try to AHG a loop it comes out looking like a roll over loop. Also how do you AHG something Vertical?
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Jimmy Yoshi
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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  9:18:34 PM   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmy Yoshi to your friends list Show Profile Send Jimmy Yoshi an AOL message Click to see Jimmy Yoshi's MSN Messenger address Send Jimmy Yoshi a Yahoo! Message Send Jimmy Yoshi a Private Message Reply with Quote
Nothing, just leave it blank for now. By filter settings he means coloring the rails different shades of red to adjust the filter.
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phanoity
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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  11:02:11 PM   Bookmark this reply Add phanoity to your friends list Show Profile Send phanoity an AOL message Send phanoity a Private Message Reply with Quote
I am so confused. Mabey its because I just color everything black. Do i just not color the loop. But if i don't where do I start not coloring?
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GerstlCrazy
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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  11:09:57 PM   Bookmark this reply Add GerstlCrazy to your friends list Show Profile Send GerstlCrazy a Private Message Reply with Quote
You color everything black? If I'm correct, that pretty much locks most of the stuff into place, right?
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Jakizle
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Posted - 09/23/2007 :  11:52:00 PM   Bookmark this reply Add Jakizle to your friends list Show Profile Send Jakizle an AOL message Click to see Jakizle's MSN Messenger address Send Jakizle a Private Message Reply with Quote
Don't color a loop black when past 90* (the top half of a loop).
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Jimmy Yoshi
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Posted - 09/24/2007 :  05:14:26 AM   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmy Yoshi to your friends list Show Profile Send Jimmy Yoshi an AOL message Click to see Jimmy Yoshi's MSN Messenger address Send Jimmy Yoshi a Yahoo! Message Send Jimmy Yoshi a Private Message Reply with Quote
YOU DON'T COLOR LOOPS!!!! EVER!!!!!
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redunzelizer
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Posted - 09/24/2007 :  5:09:21 PM   Bookmark this reply Add redunzelizer to your friends list Show Profile Send redunzelizer a Private Message Reply with Quote
Do color loops whenever required.
Don't color loops when not required.
Adjust speed input in case, or not.

Most important though:

Do believe everything you're told and live a happy life in contradiction!
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phanoity
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Posted - 09/25/2007 :  10:17:05 PM   Bookmark this reply Add phanoity to your friends list Show Profile Send phanoity an AOL message Send phanoity a Private Message Reply with Quote
Since this is confusing me alot, Im just going to show you guys just what exactly im trying to do.


This is what I'm trying to AHG.


This is what happens when I try to get all of my segments the same length. Then I send it through AHG with the Correct heartline value and everything goes Wack.
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A7
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Posted - 09/25/2007 :  10:29:25 PM   Bookmark this reply Add A7 to your friends list Show Profile Send A7 a Private Message Reply with Quote
Are you using relative roll? I tend to get similar outputs when using relative roll. I don't think AHG handles it or recognizes it.
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phanoity
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Posted - 09/25/2007 :  10:31:19 PM   Bookmark this reply Add phanoity to your friends list Show Profile Send phanoity an AOL message Send phanoity a Private Message Reply with Quote
Yes, I am using relative roll. Ill try taking it off and then Ill tell you how it goes.
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SFMM homie
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Posted - 09/25/2007 :  10:33:32 PM   Bookmark this reply Add SFMM homie to your friends list Show Profile Send SFMM homie an AOL message Send SFMM homie a Private Message Reply with Quote
I color my loops black when they get slow enough at the top...
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phanoity
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Posted - 09/25/2007 :  11:32:28 PM   Bookmark this reply Add phanoity to your friends list Show Profile Send phanoity an AOL message Send phanoity a Private Message Reply with Quote
Heres what happened After all my segment division and everything with relative roll off.

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Jimmy Yoshi
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Posted - 09/26/2007 :  05:02:40 AM   Bookmark this reply Add Jimmy Yoshi to your friends list Show Profile Send Jimmy Yoshi an AOL message Click to see Jimmy Yoshi's MSN Messenger address Send Jimmy Yoshi a Yahoo! Message Send Jimmy Yoshi a Private Message Reply with Quote
You can't do beyond vertical sections with AHG.

And it appears as though you do not have enough speed through your inversions.

Also if you want to keep your banking (by coloring the track black) You may want to increase the number of segments on your input track. This happened to Barone in a similar case on one of his rides when he did not have nearly enough segments and the AHG seems to not have enough material to heartline off of.

Edited by - Jimmy Yoshi on 09/26/2007 05:29:41 AM
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phanoity
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Posted - 09/26/2007 :  09:45:30 AM   Bookmark this reply Add phanoity to your friends list Show Profile Send phanoity an AOL message Send phanoity a Private Message Reply with Quote
What size segment do you recommend? On Black Halo Isn't the first drop more then vertical?

Edited by - phanoity on 09/26/2007 09:46:31 AM
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