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gforce1994
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  1:01:47 PM Bookmark this topic Add gforce1994 to your friends list Show Profile Send gforce1994 a Private Message Reply with Quote
http://www.flickr.com/photos/81175964@N05/7699266182/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/81175964@N05/7699263844/in/photostream/
Any problems with these images so far. If not the project will be released in late October!

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NightwindElf
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  2:38:00 PM   Bookmark this reply Add NightwindElf to your friends list Show Profile Send NightwindElf a Private Message Reply with Quote
I see pre-fab supports. Get rid of those and make your own. Looks like the lats could get pretty high in that turning section after the lift. Make sure it's within reasonable limits. If you don't know what that is, go do some research.
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gforce1994
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  4:09:22 PM   Bookmark this reply Add gforce1994 to your friends list Show Profile Send gforce1994 a Private Message Reply with Quote
I know what Lateral G's are and the g's are within limits. Wow never knew that changing pre fabs to custom could take this long!

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NightwindElf
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  4:11:28 PM   Bookmark this reply Add NightwindElf to your friends list Show Profile Send NightwindElf a Private Message Reply with Quote
Just because you know what the forces are doesn't mean you know what reasonable limits are. What are the max forces on that ride?
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dj-dj
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  4:37:35 PM   Bookmark this reply Add dj-dj to your friends list Show Profile Click to see dj-dj's MSN Messenger address Send dj-dj a Yahoo! Message Send dj-dj a Private Message Reply with Quote
7 G's

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AmatsuNL
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  5:27:25 PM   Bookmark this reply Add AmatsuNL to your friends list Show Profile Send AmatsuNL a Private Message Reply with Quote
No, it's obviously 96563909.999G vertical, 48721039421.223G lateral.

HA, I DON'T HAVE A SIG - wait, what?
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spideyfan
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  8:19:17 PM   Bookmark this reply Add spideyfan to your friends list Show Profile Reply with Quote
The layout isn't even right. Try looking at bing maps and compare. The shaping in the first part is all wrong. Have you been on the ride or at least seen a POV?! you said this would be released in October. Don't spend 20 minutes on it and let it sit on your hard drive until then.

It doesn't even look like an Arrow. Arrow would never do that quick S turn before the second lift. The second lift is perpendicular to the first. And the 3rd is parallel to the second. The overall length I can tell is too long just by looking at it.

Hell, I know all this and I haven't even been on the damn thing or SFOG!

Spend some time on this. Look at pictures for shaping techniques! Get the length of the track as close as possible as well. Upload it when you can't tell the difference between your track and the POV.

Edited by - spideyfan on 08/02/2012 8:36:55 PM
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gforce1994
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  8:58:35 PM   Bookmark this reply Add gforce1994 to your friends list Show Profile Send gforce1994 a Private Message Reply with Quote
http://www.rcdb.com/42.htm?p=4057 = S Bend in real life! bottom left
http://www.flickr.com/photos/81175964@N05/7701678542/in/photostream
http://www.flickr.com/photos/81175964@N05/7701677628/in/photostream

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gforce1994
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  9:04:15 PM   Bookmark this reply Add gforce1994 to your friends list Show Profile Send gforce1994 a Private Message Reply with Quote
spideyfan - I'm sorry but the third lift is perpendicular to the second while the second is parallel to the first!
Map: http://www.flickr.com/photos/81175964@N05/7701700796/in/photostream
Recreation: http://www.flickr.com/photos/81175964@N05/7701700234/in/photostream/
My recreation is within a foot of the actual length!

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jdmi012
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  9:04:25 PM   Bookmark this reply Add jdmi012 to your friends list Show Profile Send jdmi012 a Private Message Reply with Quote
Here is another thing. Every time you make a coaster, you don't need a topic about it.

Edited by - jdmi012 on 08/02/2012 9:05:09 PM
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gforce1994
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  9:04:45 PM   Bookmark this reply Add gforce1994 to your friends list Show Profile Send gforce1994 a Private Message Reply with Quote
Max vert is 2.0 gs while lateral is 1.7 g's

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gforce1994
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  9:12:01 PM   Bookmark this reply Add gforce1994 to your friends list Show Profile Send gforce1994 a Private Message Reply with Quote
NightwindElf you have a legitamite point and I will fix it meanwhile enjoy this sarcastic picture: http://www.flickr.com/photos/81175964@N05/7701737078/in/photostream

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CKidd
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  9:16:16 PM   Bookmark this reply Add CKidd to your friends list Show Profile Send CKidd an AOL message Send CKidd a Private Message Reply with Quote
I've never even heard of this ride before, but it is Arrow so its possible 1.7 is also in real life,also 2 vert Gs is quite possible too, considering its a mine train which are never forceful . on another thing you defend yourself with pictures but your pictures do not correlate with each other, if you show an ariel view of the real ride, show the exact same ariel of your ride, if you defend yourself on s-turns, show real s-turns, then yours, not a crappy piece of scenery

What are these for?

Edited by - CKidd on 08/02/2012 9:27:05 PM
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NightwindElf
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  9:18:01 PM   Bookmark this reply Add NightwindElf to your friends list Show Profile Send NightwindElf a Private Message Reply with Quote
That's true. 1.7 could be a possibility on an Arrow, but I doubt it would be sustained for any real length of time. Are those lats sustained or is it a quick peak?
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gforce1994
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  9:19:29 PM   Bookmark this reply Add gforce1994 to your friends list Show Profile Send gforce1994 a Private Message Reply with Quote
http://www.flickr.com/photos/81175964@N05/7701771060/in/photostream here is the ride recreation.

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gforce1994
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  9:21:50 PM   Bookmark this reply Add gforce1994 to your friends list Show Profile Send gforce1994 a Private Message Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NightwindElf

That's true. 1.7 could be a possibility on an Arrow, but I doubt it would be sustained for any real length of time. Are those lats sustained or is it a quick peak?


Quick peak of time!

A big drop is a good drop.

Edited by - gforce1994 on 08/02/2012 9:22:22 PM
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RideWarriorNation
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  9:22:52 PM   Bookmark this reply Add RideWarriorNation to your friends list Show Profile Send RideWarriorNation a Private Message Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by NightwindElf

Just because you know what the forces are doesn't mean you know what reasonable limits are. What are the max forces on that ride?


Edited by - RideWarriorNation on 08/02/2012 10:14:00 PM
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spideyfan
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  10:28:59 PM   Bookmark this reply Add spideyfan to your friends list Show Profile Reply with Quote
Alright, I was wrong. But, why do you only have right angles? The first lift appears to be 45 degrees to the station. In you're rec it's perpendicular. Stuff like that is what you want to look at. And it STILL doesn't look like an Arrow.
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gforce1994
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Posted - 08/02/2012 :  10:30:31 PM   Bookmark this reply Add gforce1994 to your friends list Show Profile Send gforce1994 a Private Message Reply with Quote
No it is perpendicular, and the mine train track is the only one in the program.

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spideyfan
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Posted - 08/03/2012 :  12:11:13 AM   Bookmark this reply Add spideyfan to your friends list Show Profile Reply with Quote
*Facepalm*

Not the track type, the shape of the track. It doesn't look anything like Arrow!

I can clearly see in the bird's eye view that it is NOT perpendicular! What you have outlined is the shadow of the lift. Looking at it again, nothing is perpendicular or parallel really.

This is why you need to stay away from recreations for a while. Build a realistic coaster that is your own design. Work on the characteristics of each manufacturer. Hell, I ain't even got it down 100 percent and I've had the program since 2004!
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gforce1994
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Posted - 08/03/2012 :  10:38:26 AM   Bookmark this reply Add gforce1994 to your friends list Show Profile Send gforce1994 a Private Message Reply with Quote
Here is an overhead of the ride in the fall. They are just like I said!
http://www.flickr.com/photos/81175964@N05/7704846698/in/photostream

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CKidd
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Posted - 08/03/2012 :  10:50:38 AM   Bookmark this reply Add CKidd to your friends list Show Profile Send CKidd an AOL message Send CKidd a Private Message Reply with Quote
thats neither perpendicular nor at 45 is somewhere between 5 and 15 I'd say

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spideyfan
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Posted - 08/03/2012 :  11:03:05 AM   Bookmark this reply Add spideyfan to your friends list Show Profile Reply with Quote
gforce: USE THE BIRD'S EYE VIEW! IT WILL HEL... You know what.. I don't care. Do whatever you want...

Here's what I meant to say:
Thank you for making these beautiful ride recreations that are flawless and look EXACTLY like the real rides. This ride looks perfect and I think it's ready to upload, but make sure you spend a few more minutes tweaking it. I really am glad that you have taken our advice here at coastercrazy. I'm sure that our highly regarded members here will bow down to you and your skills.

/sarcasm
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gforce1994
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Posted - 08/03/2012 :  12:04:29 PM   Bookmark this reply Add gforce1994 to your friends list Show Profile Send gforce1994 a Private Message Reply with Quote
Lift Hill shot! http://www.flickr.com/photos/81175964@N05/7705303954/in/photostream
Fixed the problem

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gforce1994
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Posted - 08/03/2012 :  12:11:40 PM   Bookmark this reply Add gforce1994 to your friends list Show Profile Send gforce1994 a Private Message Reply with Quote
Also, I know how to build mine train coasters from Arrow.
Carolina Goldrusher: http://www.flickr.com/photos/81175964@N05/7705347024/in/photostream
Canyon Blaster:
http://coastercrazy.com/track_exchange/detail/19196

A big drop is a good drop.
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spideyfan
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Posted - 08/03/2012 :  2:28:31 PM   Bookmark this reply Add spideyfan to your friends list Show Profile Reply with Quote
No, you don't. The layout and shaping is wrong. The layout is close, but STOP using the grid so much!!!

It's too smooth to be an Arrow!
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