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First FVD++ Creation/ B&M Standup

PostPosted: July 11th, 2014, 10:22 am
by Topthrill123
So my first FVD++ project is a B&M Standup modeled after Iron Wolf and Vortex. But Since I'm still learning FVD++ I will need some help creating certain parts of the ride. I'm basically going to post ride updates element by element to make sure I get it right. Here is what I have so far.....

Re: First FVD++ Creation/ B&M Standup

PostPosted: July 11th, 2014, 10:55 am
by TheCoasterMan589
first of all, you shouldn't be making that many separate force sections. All of what you have after the straight section should be one section. This allows your various transitions to overlap. As a former newton user i made the same mistake of making too many sections when I first tried out FVD++

For example, look at the graph for the coaster I am making currently. Notice how the roll transitions are generally longer then the normal force transitions. I also used only 7 sections on the whole coaster.

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My graph probably isn't perfect and I am not super experienced in FVD++ myself, but I am just trying to help as much as I can. People who know FVD++ better then me can probably give better info than me.

Re: First FVD++ Creation/ B&M Standup

PostPosted: July 11th, 2014, 11:04 am
by Topthrill123
I come from using Newton 2 so I kind of use FVD++ like Newton.

Re: First FVD++ Creation/ B&M Standup

PostPosted: July 11th, 2014, 11:05 am
by Kyle Sloane
The beginning and end of the blue transition should be at the same height for the loop, otherwise it will look wonky. After the pre drop it should also be all one force section. We're you using the multiforce sections on Newton 2? Because this a very similar format to that.

Re: First FVD++ Creation/ B&M Standup

PostPosted: July 11th, 2014, 11:16 am
by Topthrill123
Kyle Sloane wrote:
The beginning and end of the blue transition should be at the same height for the loop, otherwise it will look wonky. After the pre drop it should also be all one force section. We're you using the multiforce sections on Newton 2? Because this a very similar format to that.


Yes but I had trouble making B&M standup drops in Newton as well. How do I do it with only one section? Any tips or tricks would be greatly appreciated. Btw it exits the pre drop at 3m/s

Re: First FVD++ Creation/ B&M Standup

PostPosted: July 11th, 2014, 11:50 am
by Topthrill123
Also I don't know what this means?

Re: First FVD++ Creation/ B&M Standup

PostPosted: July 14th, 2014, 11:18 am
by gigacoasterfan
That spike means that the pitch change in degrees/sec is dropping back down to 0 for a flat section.

Re: First FVD++ Creation/ B&M Standup

PostPosted: July 14th, 2014, 4:57 pm
by Coasterkidmwm
Your predrop is a bit long, and the crest of the lift should be wider than the part where it bottoms out. Otherwise I'm looking forward to this since I'm a bit partial to the B&M standup style now that I work on one. Also don't forget you can use half a heartline in some sections if need be.

Re: First FVD++ Creation/ B&M Standup

PostPosted: July 19th, 2014, 10:04 pm
by TTD03
I like the way it is starting to look.