I just got NL!

[Brtnboarder495]

I needed that laugh

[jayman]

um.. i wasn't "blown away" by the ride.. but by the lousyness of your advertising.. if ford had a campaign like "hey, we're ford, please dont pay any attention to how crappy our products are, chevys are bad too. "

hey bowser....have you noticed how YOUR page of about how you got NL turns into a 4 (so far) page thread about how you are a cocky idiotic irogant asshole and cant accept help/ideas/critisim? i have lost all respect for you as a person and a human being. i hope you live the rest of your life miserable and depressed with no outside human contact for the rest of your life, because you truly one of the worst people i have met in my entire life. to sum it up, i hope you die cold and miserable and begin to go insane you dumbass.

-never talk to me again,

ragan.

(yeah normal people, i might come off as an asshole, but this person deserves nothing less then zero respect from all of you. if i were the rest of you i would never help this person again, because all of the help you give he either ignores if he doesnt like it or he doesnt thank you for it if it 'helped' him. he has screwed up on countless other websites because of the person he is, and doesnt deserve and third or fourth chance to try to fit in to this community or any others because he has proven he cant handle himself. sorry if i offended someone cause i am just speaking my mind. hope you dont think less of me just because i gave up on bowser completely, and moreorless called him a dipshit.)

[jayman]

RAGAN
this was all obvious in his first few posts, but i'd have to say , yes you do sound a little harsh[lol][lol]but there's something that tells me much of it was neccessary. [worship][worship]
bowser joe..once you post a ride you subject it to the critisism of other people on this site, people whom you have annoyed. however for some reason, this fact had nothing to do with how your ride got rated. it wasn't that good, period. i rode and rated it.. of course i rate a little different than tconwell.. if i rated like him my rate may have been even lower. but everything that was said about your ride was true. (well, except for some of the nice stuff people said to make you feel better)......

[jayman]

Originally posted by Bowserjoe

Umm....I'm uploading right now, so I suggest you download it. My ride is very simple, but by reading your ignorant, and inconsiderate post I think you'll be blown away by......"Black Lightning."

DON'T PREJUDGE PEOPLE! IT'S NOT NICE.

this is FUNNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, after re-riding my ride several times and riding some others as well as viewing some real life POVs, I have realized that my ride isn't as smooth as I thought. Anyway, I DO appreciate everyone trying to help. The only thing that pissed me off was when SFMM homie said that "no rides in real life have pumping." That my friends, is a false statement. On both of SFNE's coasters, (particularly Thunderbolt), some of the flat elevated turnarounds have a sudden decrease in radius, and that's esactly what causes the pump effect. Vertical pumping, I'm not sure about. Lateral pumping definitely exists.

Anyway, I would like this thread closed if possible because it's not doing anyone any good. I have two coasters I'm working on simultaneously that should be way smoother and better. (Arrow looper and Intamin hyper.)

What took me by surprise the most is how much stricter you guys are with the rates for NL coasters than for SM. In SM, I've had MUCH rougher rides that got rated over 7. Anyway, please close this thread.

There's 'vertical pumping' on plenty of real coasters, done on purpose on some newer rides. It can be seen distinctly on Roar at SFA and SFMW... http://rcdb.com/ig485.htm?picture=4 or even on rides like Medusa at SFGAdv between the dive loop and 0-g roll... probably used in that case to reduce the duration of g's in that area (though that's not too likely since there are more sustained g's throughout the ride), to just have a low slightly turning segment which maintains more speed than a normal pullout, or for any multitude of other reasons.

Therefore, if done right, 'pumping' is acceptable and can be benificial to the design (though I don't think it is in Roar's case). But, as seen on your ride even though IMO your pumping for the most part wasn't nearly as bad as that of other NL rides I've seen, sloppily done elements with pumping can be *very* detrimental to a track design, especially if it's found throughout the ride. It decreases the sense of speed and makes the ride feel very virtual instead of creating a sense of realism.

[jayman]

no, really if i had scream machines i'd rate a ride like yours the same.. don't you get it? you aren't near as good at this as you think you are. that doesn't mean you wont get better at it. but instead you're all " well you people are too stupid to see how good it really is, and most of what's wrong isn't my fault' to be honest from how you've acted i expected this ride to be way worse.. instead of waiting untill after four pages of this and several low rates to get a feel for how it works, if you can now look at it criticaly and fix it up, why didn't you before?

Originally posted by jayman

if you can now look at it criticaly and fix it up, why didn't you before?

Do you really have to ask? Consider the source.

One thought to consider bowser: Historically, SM raters are not that critical when rating rides. If you want to have comments be sugar coated and have everyone tell you how great it is, stick with SM. NoLimits construction is much more strict and requires just a wee bit more talent (in my opinion) and thus designing takes more effort. And so, if your construction is weak, it will be reflected in the rates/comments - that is a fact.

And oh, @ ragan.

[jayman]

no, i really don't need to ask[lol]... i never tried scream machines.. i looked at the demo and realized that it wasn't quite as good as no limits, so i just ignored it. i have seen the difference in how sm and nl tracks get rated. there just seems to be something altogether more polished about no limits rides in general, but i can't say that with much conviction because i never used s.m. it seemed like no limits jr.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Hehehe the fish doesn't like the new pond. Be glad you weren't subjected to the raters at CS who rate a bit harder.

[jayman]

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

Hehehe the fish doesn't like the new pond. Be glad you weren't subjected to the raters at CS who rate a bit harder.

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