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Consider this,
Why is it that public schools can teach tolerance for Islam, but not for Christianity?
Why is it that in the name of acceptance, public school teachers will have their students read from the Qu'ran, but reading from the Bible would cause an uproar among the parents and general society?
Why is it that everyone tells us that Islam is a religion of peace when the Qu'ran itself tells Muslims that it is their duty to kill all infidels and non-believers?
Why is it that it was ok for a school in California to force their students to write prayers to Allah to help them "learn" about Islam, but if they were forced to write prayers to Jesus Christ everyone would be whining about how they were forcing their religion on the kids?
Why is it that even though the Beltway snipers were Muslim and defended themselves in court by quoting the Qu'ran and their call to jihad, no one in the news ever mentioned these facts?
Why is it that it is hidden whenever a Muslim commits a crime against Jews or Christians in the name of Islam (which is encouraged by their holy book) but when a crazy goes and blows up an abortion clinic it is emphasized that he is "Christian" (even though the Bible tells us specifically not to murder and condemns killing of any kind)?
Why is it that it was ok to search only whites when trying to oust the KKK or neo-Nazis, but it's not ok to look for Arabs or Muslim males when looking for terrorists? "100 percent of the successful terrorist attacks on commercial airlines for 20 years have been committed by Arabs. When there is a 100 percent chance, it ceases to be a profile. It's called a "description of the suspect."
Why is it that our government keeps getting verbally abused for taking down the outrageous, crooked, corrupt, and brutal Iraqi government? Do you remember those towers that used to be there in New York? Do you want that to happen again?
Why is it that in society today, Islam is promoted as a religion of peace only and no mention is made of the outrageous and terrifying teachings put forth in the Qu'ran, while Christianity is brutalized by politicians and the media, saying that it is bigoted, hateful, dangerous, and encourages division? I would like to remind you all that the main commandment put forth by Jesus Christ was "Love one another as I have loved you". This is not exclusive; this statement is meant to include all people of every race, creed, and religion. On the other hand, the Qu'ran says "Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate" (Qu'ran 9:73).
Why is it that everytime Christianity is promoted as a religion of peace and acceptance, people bring up the Crusades as our holy war and tell us that that was worse? It was not. If you know correct history, the Crusades were not acts of unprovoked aggression by Europe against the Islamic world (as is taught in school), but a delayed response to centuries of Muslim aggression. In the meantime, the actual founder of the Muslim religion, Mohammed, led his troops to fight against those he didn't like, those who didn't accept them, and ordered the death of thousands. I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure no one can imagine Jesus saying those sorts of things.
Why is it that everyone is outraged at our war in Iraq (which is not intended to be religiously motivated, it just sort of happens that all the terrorists who want to attack our country are Muslim or Arab and come from the Middle East) but they seem to have overlooked that fact that in speeches made by Muslim leaders in the Middle East, they have declared war on the whole non-Muslim world, especially the United States?
Why is it that we overlook the fact that Muslims still have slaves? Women are their slaves. If you knew the half of what they do to those women and what they make the women do, you would say that blacks were probably better off before 1865 then these women are.
Why is it that we overlook the fact that it is a devout Muslim's job to make war on the infidels?
I'm sick and tired of the double standard. It is allowed for Islam to be taught in our schools, but Christianity is written off as bigoted and dangerous to society, when Christianity was the actual basis for our entire country. The Pilgrims were deeply Christian and they came to form a Christian community. All of our founding fathers were deeply Christian, yes including Thomas Jefferson. If you want to preach acceptance for all relgions and teach about different religions, then include Christianity. If you want to get religion out of the government and public schools, then don't make an exception for Islam. And get your facts straight on the Muslim religion before you start promoting it as a religion of peace.
What is your opinion?
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June 1st, 2006, 7:07 pm
You do know that was OUR government who did that with the aid of Israel, right? See my random document thingy, and feel free to argue it out with me, because you can't argue against truth:
http://mongoose.lp-musix.net/9-11.doc
EDIT: ^^it's down atm....give it a bit though
EDIT2: What the hell does 9-11 have to do with religion anyways? Thanks for helping ease tensions against muslims.
EDIT3 ftw!: Did you ever stop to consider that 4000 died on 9-11, but since 1991, 2,000,000 have died in iraq? Did you ever stop to consider that the majority is almost always accepted as a way of life in a country while minorities aren't? It's called discimination.
EDIT...4?! (i keep getting mroe thoughts): Did you ever stop to think about what the Bible talks about too? In several places it mentions slavery, and it even supports the stereotype that god is the slavemaster, and the christians are the slaves.
This is why religion shouldn't have ever existed. It never unites - never. It divides, kills, causes tensions, and threads like these online. And if threads online like this tend to turn into flams wars, think about real life. if I could end poverty or religion, it would be religion.
The overly Christian kids generally cause stupid uproars for no good reason. Example: The Day of Truth. Day of Truth is the biggest bullshit I've ever seen before. They do a great job of protecting us from the evils of homosexuality. Last time I checked gays didn't terrorist sects like the KKK.
Yeah the Bible tells us about cannibalism, incest, and excessive violence. I guess you're okay with that.
It's the stupid things like the Day of Truth causing that.
How come nobody ever mentions that Christian Scientists are legally exempt from require immunizations and are a massive threat to society?
The Bible obviously encourages and mentions it so I'd stop talking if I was you.
If you don't have a problem with racially profiling them then you shouldn't have a problem with people automatically assuming you're a psycho too.
They kinda did that whole thing involving lying to the people. usually that's bad...
"...Hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?" --Isaiah 36:12; also in II Kings 18:27.
"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat." --Levitcus 26:29.
"So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son." --2 Kings 6:29.
The lord threatened his children: "Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces." --Malachi 2:3.
"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." --Psalms 137:9.
"And he (David) brought forth the people that were therein, and put them under saws and under harrows of iron, and under axes of iron, and made them pass through the brick-kiln." --2 Samuel 12:31.
"And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto they brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother." --Genesis 38:8-9.
Christ demanded: "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." --Luke 19:27.
Delayed response eh? So we were getting them back? Sounds like a good and Christian thing to do. Got a legitimate source on that?
You really think that? Wow.
That's totally why women's rights groups were flipping out at Afghanistan LONG before 9/11.
See the Bible quotes again.
Yeah and I don't see ANY Muslim charactors in the government now so I dont really get what you're going at. Also didn't those Christians kill women in Salem Witch trials?
These are the two that caught my attention the most. First of all, we now know that the Iraqi government had nothing to do with 9/11, and secondly, if you knew any muslims you'd know that they don't all want to "kill the infidel." Arab terrorists are no different than white, American terrorists (Timothy McVeigh etc.), other than that they have different motives and "reasons" for what they do.
Also, a school reading from the Qu'ran is completely different from teaching Islam. I've read Genesis in an english class (lumped in with a bunch of other creation myths from other religions) and that was in no way teaching or promoting Christianity or Judaism. It's the same as teaching evolution in a biology class, as long as it is taught as a theory, its fine.
Oh, also, on the one about searching for Arab terrorists, just because all hijackers are Arab, doesn't mean all Arabs are hijackers, your logic is backwards there.
Edit:
Why are you so angry about this anyway?
Yeah the Bible tells us about cannibalism, incest, and excessive violence. I guess you're okay with that.
I have a problem with both statements. The qu'ran doesn't tell them to be evil, like said earlier, extremists are evil. And the Bible has a thing called context, it's not telling you to be cannabalistic, violent, and it doesn't talk about incest.
That was the Old Testament. It was replaced with the New Testament with new teachings. The Old Testament is more a history reference than a teaching book. The teachings of Jesus is what most people in the world follow, not the Old Testament.
The point is, it's still in there, and people sitll follow these "teachings." The book of lies is nothing more than a brainwashing textbook.
yay for more edits: Has anyone noticed that ttm hasn't responded to anything we've argued with?
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yeah right[lol]
What do you think about the Pope that compltely ignored the Holocaust, sat back, and didn't do diddley squat because he was a damned sissy/anti-Jew/Gypsy/Gay asshole? Don't give me that poop about saving 10000 Jews or whatever, he ignored the problem almost entirely the evidence of it is overwhelming.
I also love Mr. Hitler Youth Pope. If he was so devout he would have done something instead of cruising along with everyone else.
Also at the least Islamics don't rape 6 yr old boys on a regular basis.
Real, I don't see how you could most of the interpret the Bible quotes in any other way. I went back and read them over again, a couple you could swing the other way. I still need an explanation for most of them.
Consider This...
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June 1st, 2006, 7:07 pm
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do we really have to go through this? topics like this keep everyone too busy yelling at each other making 5+ page long threads that get no one anywhere. its cool if you wanna debate or argue about this elsewhere, but keep it off this site. this has happened wayyyyyy to many times
do we really have to go through this? topics like this keep everyone too busy yelling at each other making 5+ page long threads that get no one anywhere. its cool if you wanna debate or argue about this elsewhere, but keep it off this site. this has happened wayyyyyy to many times
One thing you must realize is that not all people of every religion are the same. Followers range from barely practicing to very extreme in their beliefs. Religious differences come in how people interpret what they read in their holy books. In most cases, people are only exposed to the bad extreme sides of religion. This is why a common American opinion of Muslims is that they are all terrorists.
As I said earlier, there are extremists and people who aren't extreme. Every religion has extrmemists despite what people might think. Many reasons people hate the US are not based in religion. We have a lot of money, space, and power here. Poorer nations don't like the US because they want the money that we have here.
People don't like the Iraq war because people think it was unnecessary. How many parents want to see their children sent off to fight a war based on false assumptions?
In your entire speech, I never noticed you mentioning the Jewish people. The ones who always get blamed for everything that's going wrong in the two newer religions. The ones who were forced to scatter and be killed under harsh, oppressive governments.
And the Crusades were pretty much unprovoked. Christians got upset at losing the Holy Land to the Muslims, land that wasn't theirs in the first place.
Religion is a very touchy and hard to explain subject. It's all in interpretation. Many customs today were borrowed. The splits and branching of religion creates many groups who say they follow the same thing, but have widely differing views.
Everyone tends to lean and defend their own religious beliefs and ideas. Typically I prefer to stay away from these kinds of topics, but here I've decided to share what I know.
As I said earlier, there are extremists and people who aren't extreme. Every religion has extrmemists despite what people might think. Many reasons people hate the US are not based in religion. We have a lot of money, space, and power here. Poorer nations don't like the US because they want the money that we have here.
People don't like the Iraq war because people think it was unnecessary. How many parents want to see their children sent off to fight a war based on false assumptions?
In your entire speech, I never noticed you mentioning the Jewish people. The ones who always get blamed for everything that's going wrong in the two newer religions. The ones who were forced to scatter and be killed under harsh, oppressive governments.
And the Crusades were pretty much unprovoked. Christians got upset at losing the Holy Land to the Muslims, land that wasn't theirs in the first place.
Religion is a very touchy and hard to explain subject. It's all in interpretation. Many customs today were borrowed. The splits and branching of religion creates many groups who say they follow the same thing, but have widely differing views.
Everyone tends to lean and defend their own religious beliefs and ideas. Typically I prefer to stay away from these kinds of topics, but here I've decided to share what I know.
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Consider this,.....blah blah random stuff....
Why is it that our government keeps getting verbally abused for taking down the outrageous, crooked, corrupt, and brutal Iraqi government? Do you remember those towers that used to be there in New York? Do you want that to happen again?
Consider this,.....blah blah random stuff....
Why is it that our government keeps getting verbally abused for taking down the outrageous, crooked, corrupt, and brutal Iraqi government? Do you remember those towers that used to be there in New York? Do you want that to happen again?
You do know that was OUR government who did that with the aid of Israel, right? See my random document thingy, and feel free to argue it out with me, because you can't argue against truth:
http://mongoose.lp-musix.net/9-11.doc
EDIT: ^^it's down atm....give it a bit though
EDIT2: What the hell does 9-11 have to do with religion anyways? Thanks for helping ease tensions against muslims.
EDIT3 ftw!: Did you ever stop to consider that 4000 died on 9-11, but since 1991, 2,000,000 have died in iraq? Did you ever stop to consider that the majority is almost always accepted as a way of life in a country while minorities aren't? It's called discimination.
EDIT...4?! (i keep getting mroe thoughts): Did you ever stop to think about what the Bible talks about too? In several places it mentions slavery, and it even supports the stereotype that god is the slavemaster, and the christians are the slaves.
This is why religion shouldn't have ever existed. It never unites - never. It divides, kills, causes tensions, and threads like these online. And if threads online like this tend to turn into flams wars, think about real life. if I could end poverty or religion, it would be religion.
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Consider this,
Why is it that public schools can teach tolerance for Islam, but not for Christianity?
Why is it that in the name of acceptance, public school teachers will have their students read from the Qu'ran, but reading from the Bible would cause an uproar among the parents and general society?
Consider this,
Why is it that public schools can teach tolerance for Islam, but not for Christianity?
Why is it that in the name of acceptance, public school teachers will have their students read from the Qu'ran, but reading from the Bible would cause an uproar among the parents and general society?
The overly Christian kids generally cause stupid uproars for no good reason. Example: The Day of Truth. Day of Truth is the biggest bullshit I've ever seen before. They do a great job of protecting us from the evils of homosexuality. Last time I checked gays didn't terrorist sects like the KKK.
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Why is it that everyone tells us that Islam is a religion of peace when the Qu'ran itself tells Muslims that it is their duty to kill all infidels and non-believers?
Why is it that everyone tells us that Islam is a religion of peace when the Qu'ran itself tells Muslims that it is their duty to kill all infidels and non-believers?
Yeah the Bible tells us about cannibalism, incest, and excessive violence. I guess you're okay with that.
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Why is it that it was ok for a school in California to force their students to write prayers to Allah to help them "learn" about Islam, but if they were forced to write prayers to Jesus Christ everyone would be whining about how they were forcing their religion on the kids?
Why is it that it was ok for a school in California to force their students to write prayers to Allah to help them "learn" about Islam, but if they were forced to write prayers to Jesus Christ everyone would be whining about how they were forcing their religion on the kids?
It's the stupid things like the Day of Truth causing that.
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Why is it that even though the Beltway snipers were Muslim and defended themselves in court by quoting the Qu'ran and their call to jihad, no one in the news ever mentioned these facts?
Why is it that even though the Beltway snipers were Muslim and defended themselves in court by quoting the Qu'ran and their call to jihad, no one in the news ever mentioned these facts?
How come nobody ever mentions that Christian Scientists are legally exempt from require immunizations and are a massive threat to society?
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Why is it that it is hidden whenever a Muslim commits a crime against Jews or Christians in the name of Islam (which is encouraged by their holy book) but when a crazy goes and blows up an abortion clinic it is emphasized that he is "Christian" (even though the Bible tells us specifically not to murder and condemns killing of any kind)?
Why is it that it is hidden whenever a Muslim commits a crime against Jews or Christians in the name of Islam (which is encouraged by their holy book) but when a crazy goes and blows up an abortion clinic it is emphasized that he is "Christian" (even though the Bible tells us specifically not to murder and condemns killing of any kind)?
The Bible obviously encourages and mentions it so I'd stop talking if I was you.
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Why is it that it was ok to search only whites when trying to oust the KKK or neo-Nazis, but it's not ok to look for Arabs or Muslim males when looking for terrorists? "100 percent of the successful terrorist attacks on commercial airlines for 20 years have been committed by Arabs. When there is a 100 percent chance, it ceases to be a profile. It's called a "description of the suspect."
Why is it that it was ok to search only whites when trying to oust the KKK or neo-Nazis, but it's not ok to look for Arabs or Muslim males when looking for terrorists? "100 percent of the successful terrorist attacks on commercial airlines for 20 years have been committed by Arabs. When there is a 100 percent chance, it ceases to be a profile. It's called a "description of the suspect."
If you don't have a problem with racially profiling them then you shouldn't have a problem with people automatically assuming you're a psycho too.
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Why is it that our government keeps getting verbally abused for taking down the outrageous, crooked, corrupt, and brutal Iraqi government? Do you remember those towers that used to be there in New York? Do you want that to happen again?
Why is it that our government keeps getting verbally abused for taking down the outrageous, crooked, corrupt, and brutal Iraqi government? Do you remember those towers that used to be there in New York? Do you want that to happen again?
They kinda did that whole thing involving lying to the people. usually that's bad...
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Why is it that in society today, Islam is promoted as a religion of peace only and no mention is made of the outrageous and terrifying teachings put forth in the Qu'ran, while Christianity is brutalized by politicians and the media, saying that it is bigoted, hateful, dangerous, and encourages division? I would like to remind you all that the main commandment put forth by Jesus Christ was "Love one another as I have loved you". This is not exclusive; this statement is meant to include all people of every race, creed, and religion. On the other hand, the Qu'ran says "Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate" (Qu'ran 9:73).
Why is it that in society today, Islam is promoted as a religion of peace only and no mention is made of the outrageous and terrifying teachings put forth in the Qu'ran, while Christianity is brutalized by politicians and the media, saying that it is bigoted, hateful, dangerous, and encourages division? I would like to remind you all that the main commandment put forth by Jesus Christ was "Love one another as I have loved you". This is not exclusive; this statement is meant to include all people of every race, creed, and religion. On the other hand, the Qu'ran says "Prophet, make war on the unbelievers and the hypocrites and deal rigorously with them. Hell shall be their home: an evil fate" (Qu'ran 9:73).
"...Hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?" --Isaiah 36:12; also in II Kings 18:27.
"And ye shall eat the flesh of your sons, and the flesh of your daughters shall ye eat." --Levitcus 26:29.
"So we boiled my son, and did eat him: and I said unto her on the next day, Give thy son, that we may eat him: and she hath hid her son." --2 Kings 6:29.
The lord threatened his children: "Behold, I will corrupt your seed, and spread dung upon your faces." --Malachi 2:3.
"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones." --Psalms 137:9.
"And he (David) brought forth the people that were therein, and put them under saws and under harrows of iron, and under axes of iron, and made them pass through the brick-kiln." --2 Samuel 12:31.
"And Judah said unto Onan, Go in unto they brother's wife, and marry her, and raise up seed to thy brother. And Onan knew that the seed should not be his; and it came to pass, when he went in unto his brother's wife, that he spilled it on the ground, lest that he should give seed to his brother." --Genesis 38:8-9.
Christ demanded: "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me." --Luke 19:27.
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Why is it that everytime Christianity is promoted as a religion of peace and acceptance, people bring up the Crusades as our holy war and tell us that that was worse? It was not. If you know correct history, the Crusades were not acts of unprovoked aggression by Europe against the Islamic world (as is taught in school), but a delayed response to centuries of Muslim aggression. In the meantime, the actual founder of the Muslim religion, Mohammed, led his troops tfo ight against those he didn't like, those who didn't accept them, and ordered the death of thousands. I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure no one can imagine Jesus saying those sorts of things.
Why is it that everytime Christianity is promoted as a religion of peace and acceptance, people bring up the Crusades as our holy war and tell us that that was worse? It was not. If you know correct history, the Crusades were not acts of unprovoked aggression by Europe against the Islamic world (as is taught in school), but a delayed response to centuries of Muslim aggression. In the meantime, the actual founder of the Muslim religion, Mohammed, led his troops tfo ight against those he didn't like, those who didn't accept them, and ordered the death of thousands. I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure no one can imagine Jesus saying those sorts of things.
Delayed response eh? So we were getting them back? Sounds like a good and Christian thing to do. Got a legitimate source on that?
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Why is it that everyone is outraged at our war in Iraq (which is not intended to be religiously motivated, it just sort of happens that all the terrorists who want to attack our country are Muslim or Arab and come from the Middle East) but they seem to have overlooked that fact that in speeches made by Muslim leaders in the Middle East, they have declared war on the whole non-Muslim world, especially the United States?
Why is it that everyone is outraged at our war in Iraq (which is not intended to be religiously motivated, it just sort of happens that all the terrorists who want to attack our country are Muslim or Arab and come from the Middle East) but they seem to have overlooked that fact that in speeches made by Muslim leaders in the Middle East, they have declared war on the whole non-Muslim world, especially the United States?
You really think that? Wow.
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Why is it that we overlook the fact that Muslims still have slaves? Women are their slaves. If you knew the half of what they do to those women and what they make the women do, you would say that blacks were probably better off before 1865 then these women are.
Why is it that we overlook the fact that Muslims still have slaves? Women are their slaves. If you knew the half of what they do to those women and what they make the women do, you would say that blacks were probably better off before 1865 then these women are.
That's totally why women's rights groups were flipping out at Afghanistan LONG before 9/11.
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Why is it that we overlook the fact that it is a devout Muslim's job to make war on the infidels?
Why is it that we overlook the fact that it is a devout Muslim's job to make war on the infidels?
See the Bible quotes again.
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
I'm sick and tired of the double standard. It is allowed for Islam to be taught in our schools, but Christianity is written off as bigoted and dangerous to society, when Christianity was the actual basis for our entire country. The Pilgrims were deeply Christian and they came to form a Christian community. All of our founding fathers were deeply Christian, yes including Thomas Jefferson. If you want to preach acceptance for all relgions and teach about different religions, then include Christianity. If you want to get religion out of the government and public schools, then don't make an exception for Islam. And get your facts straight on the Muslim religion before you start promoting it as a religion of peace.
I'm sick and tired of the double standard. It is allowed for Islam to be taught in our schools, but Christianity is written off as bigoted and dangerous to society, when Christianity was the actual basis for our entire country. The Pilgrims were deeply Christian and they came to form a Christian community. All of our founding fathers were deeply Christian, yes including Thomas Jefferson. If you want to preach acceptance for all relgions and teach about different religions, then include Christianity. If you want to get religion out of the government and public schools, then don't make an exception for Islam. And get your facts straight on the Muslim religion before you start promoting it as a religion of peace.
Yeah and I don't see ANY Muslim charactors in the government now so I dont really get what you're going at. Also didn't those Christians kill women in Salem Witch trials?
"Careful man, there's a beverage here!"
Why is it that our government keeps getting verbally abused for taking down the outrageous, crooked, corrupt, and brutal Iraqi government? Do you remember those towers that used to be there in New York? Do you want that to happen again?
Why is it that we overlook the fact that it is a devout Muslim's job to make war on the infidels?
Why is it that we overlook the fact that it is a devout Muslim's job to make war on the infidels?
These are the two that caught my attention the most. First of all, we now know that the Iraqi government had nothing to do with 9/11, and secondly, if you knew any muslims you'd know that they don't all want to "kill the infidel." Arab terrorists are no different than white, American terrorists (Timothy McVeigh etc.), other than that they have different motives and "reasons" for what they do.
Also, a school reading from the Qu'ran is completely different from teaching Islam. I've read Genesis in an english class (lumped in with a bunch of other creation myths from other religions) and that was in no way teaching or promoting Christianity or Judaism. It's the same as teaching evolution in a biology class, as long as it is taught as a theory, its fine.
Oh, also, on the one about searching for Arab terrorists, just because all hijackers are Arab, doesn't mean all Arabs are hijackers, your logic is backwards there.
Edit:
Why are you so angry about this anyway?
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
Why is it that everyone tells us that Islam is a religion of peace when the Qu'ran itself tells Muslims that it is their duty to kill all infidels and non-believers?
Why is it that everyone tells us that Islam is a religion of peace when the Qu'ran itself tells Muslims that it is their duty to kill all infidels and non-believers?
Yeah the Bible tells us about cannibalism, incest, and excessive violence. I guess you're okay with that.
I have a problem with both statements. The qu'ran doesn't tell them to be evil, like said earlier, extremists are evil. And the Bible has a thing called context, it's not telling you to be cannabalistic, violent, and it doesn't talk about incest.
personally i like wooden rollercoasters the best. ghostrider at knott's is my favorite and the giant dipper here in san diego is probabaly second.
Well, I actually Like Ghost Rider First, then Gwazi (both tracks felt exactly the same) and then Gian Dipper in San Diego. I've been on GD in SC, but that was a long long time ago, and all I really remember from that trip was that I was pretty sick the first half of the trip and the bay area, other than that everything is a blurr. I've also been on Grizzly, but its been so long since I last rode, that it is also a blur. And then there is Roar... it was closed when I went to SFMW, so I don't know anything about it.
Anyways, as for people screaming about teaching anything about Christianity in school... I think that totally depends on where you live it. My school, they can bring up a point about any religion, and the teacher could sleep fine, simply because people don't freak out about religion. As it should always be, as long as its not teaching hate.
Anyways, as for people screaming about teaching anything about Christianity in school... I think that totally depends on where you live it. My school, they can bring up a point about any religion, and the teacher could sleep fine, simply because people don't freak out about religion. As it should always be, as long as its not teaching hate.
Yeah the Bible tells us about cannibalism, incest, and excessive violence. I guess you're okay with that.
That was the Old Testament. It was replaced with the New Testament with new teachings. The Old Testament is more a history reference than a teaching book. The teachings of Jesus is what most people in the world follow, not the Old Testament.
^^Yeh same with my school.
At my school we can discuss any religion. As coolbeans said, it just depends on where you live. I, like him, go to one of those schools where no one is really offended when someone talks about religion. I think that teachers should be able to actaully teach on not only Christianity, but all the other religions. As long as they don't try to convert you or anything, I really don't have a problem with it. But thats me, I'm not some insane politically correct guy that just somehow got into congress.
I go to a Catholic school so religion is an everday part of my life as it should be.
Why is it that our government keeps getting verbally abused for taking down the outrageous, crooked, corrupt, and brutal Iraqi government? Do you remember those towers that used to be there in New York? Do you want that to happen again? (quote)
um no, thats why i have a problem with what's happening in iraq. i think we should've gotten rid of saddam in 1991. that way he might have gotten the nice note i wrote to him on a 5"54 shell...it went"dear saddam...F*CK you".. and i meant it. our marines are awesome.. they DID "get him" ... but if you bothered to research things rather than just cutting and pasting the "rhetoric of the day' you'd see that people , no matter who they are, are all pretty much stoked that we stopped his bullsh*t. what we do have a problem with is that it's being done at the level of the lowest common denominator."look , ARABS... see? just like the hijackers, LET'S MAKE UM PAY!!!!!!!!" we don't like having our intelligence insulted. .. saddam is to bin laden as clinton is to falwell., and it doesn't take much brain activity to realize this.. therefore (as much as it sucks) now isn't the time to have a war of opportunity with iraq. .. i'm not a clinton lover either.. 1998 would have been a good time, (but no i don't blame it on his being a womanizing prick, even though it is something i think he is) and goddamit, they could've nailed bin laden after the cole got hit, but i can't say that claims of how easy that would have been are accurate considering the sources.
but posts like this are kinda pointless. i agree with alot of it.. i think NO religion should be taught subjectively in schools, i think that people do have a tendency to blindly scapegoat christians, without any experiences with them to back it up (however some of their speculations are pretty accurate..but i think they just make them out of spite)
wow.. i could write a #1 country hit by just editing that and making it rhyme. in the meanwhile, get off your ass and get it over to iraq. [;)]
um no, thats why i have a problem with what's happening in iraq. i think we should've gotten rid of saddam in 1991. that way he might have gotten the nice note i wrote to him on a 5"54 shell...it went"dear saddam...F*CK you".. and i meant it. our marines are awesome.. they DID "get him" ... but if you bothered to research things rather than just cutting and pasting the "rhetoric of the day' you'd see that people , no matter who they are, are all pretty much stoked that we stopped his bullsh*t. what we do have a problem with is that it's being done at the level of the lowest common denominator."look , ARABS... see? just like the hijackers, LET'S MAKE UM PAY!!!!!!!!" we don't like having our intelligence insulted. .. saddam is to bin laden as clinton is to falwell., and it doesn't take much brain activity to realize this.. therefore (as much as it sucks) now isn't the time to have a war of opportunity with iraq. .. i'm not a clinton lover either.. 1998 would have been a good time, (but no i don't blame it on his being a womanizing prick, even though it is something i think he is) and goddamit, they could've nailed bin laden after the cole got hit, but i can't say that claims of how easy that would have been are accurate considering the sources.
but posts like this are kinda pointless. i agree with alot of it.. i think NO religion should be taught subjectively in schools, i think that people do have a tendency to blindly scapegoat christians, without any experiences with them to back it up (however some of their speculations are pretty accurate..but i think they just make them out of spite)
wow.. i could write a #1 country hit by just editing that and making it rhyme. in the meanwhile, get off your ass and get it over to iraq. [;)]
Thank you Jay.
<-- Sits down with popcorn to watch the festivities ... yet again. Come on folks, teach me something new today.
<-- Sits down with popcorn to watch the festivities ... yet again. Come on folks, teach me something new today.
Topthrillmaniac, you, my friend, are an idiot. Coasterkid summed up my general thoughts of what you posted. Everything you said is hypocritical and vastly incorrect. I am religious myself, but it's ifgnorant religious people such as yourself who give Christianity such a bad name. You fail to acknowledge any negatives about your own religion while hollering out the numerous weaknesses of other religions, most accusations of which are partially incorrect. Try getting at least of majority of your facts straight before you post something so forthright and rediculous.
And, as a sidenote, perhaps you should learn from Tcon, Jay, etc. While I disagree with their opinions in some cases, at least they know what they are talking about and provide valid facts rather than spew out utter bullsh*t that affirms your ignorance.
And, as a sidenote, perhaps you should learn from Tcon, Jay, etc. While I disagree with their opinions in some cases, at least they know what they are talking about and provide valid facts rather than spew out utter bullsh*t that affirms your ignorance.
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
That was the Old Testament. It was replaced with the New Testament with new teachings. The Old Testament is more a history reference than a teaching book. The teachings of Jesus is what most people in the world follow, not the Old Testament.
Yeah the Bible tells us about cannibalism, incest, and excessive violence. I guess you're okay with that.
That was the Old Testament. It was replaced with the New Testament with new teachings. The Old Testament is more a history reference than a teaching book. The teachings of Jesus is what most people in the world follow, not the Old Testament.
The point is, it's still in there, and people sitll follow these "teachings." The book of lies is nothing more than a brainwashing textbook.
yay for more edits: Has anyone noticed that ttm hasn't responded to anything we've argued with?
Originally posted by jayman
personally i like wooden rollercoasters the best. ghostrider at knott's is my favorite and the giant dipper here in san diego is probabaly second.
personally i like wooden rollercoasters the best. ghostrider at knott's is my favorite and the giant dipper here in san diego is probabaly second.
I didn't get to go on the Giant Dipper, I was in San Diego with school a few months ago and we went to mission beach one morning but had to leave right when it opened for the day.[:(!]
well.. ride -wise you didn't miss much.. what with the morgan trains, but it's a pretty good ride, and a really well maintained prior and church bobs style coaster.
um yes you do need to say more, like about how you've managed to travel back in time to when there was someone named "colon " was a powerful person in america[blah]
LMAO @ Coasterkidmwm
Every single verse you quoted was either:
A: Taken out of context. Next time, try not to just quote the section that suits your need and include the story that goes with it.
B: Completely misread. Such as the "under saws". Its known that that terminology to be "put under" means to be "put to work". Such as, "They were put to work with saws..."
Really. You seem to "know" all this great scripture but you must have forgotten to read the part about the people who would contort and misinterpret the message for their own gain. I suppose that maybe would be too convicting?
If you must use the KJ version, at least understand the Hebrew and Aramaic translations so you understand the wordings. If you take the KJ version word for word without knowing either the story, context or the translations you will twist your message and will not understand a word of it.
Every single verse you quoted was either:
A: Taken out of context. Next time, try not to just quote the section that suits your need and include the story that goes with it.
B: Completely misread. Such as the "under saws". Its known that that terminology to be "put under" means to be "put to work". Such as, "They were put to work with saws..."
Really. You seem to "know" all this great scripture but you must have forgotten to read the part about the people who would contort and misinterpret the message for their own gain. I suppose that maybe would be too convicting?
If you must use the KJ version, at least understand the Hebrew and Aramaic translations so you understand the wordings. If you take the KJ version word for word without knowing either the story, context or the translations you will twist your message and will not understand a word of it.
Consider this;
The best rapper is a white guy
The best rapper is a white guy
yeah right[lol]
Originally posted by topthrillmaniac
I go to a Catholic school so religion is an everday part of my life as it should be.
I go to a Catholic school so religion is an everday part of my life as it should be.
What do you think about the Pope that compltely ignored the Holocaust, sat back, and didn't do diddley squat because he was a damned sissy/anti-Jew/Gypsy/Gay asshole? Don't give me that poop about saving 10000 Jews or whatever, he ignored the problem almost entirely the evidence of it is overwhelming.
I also love Mr. Hitler Youth Pope. If he was so devout he would have done something instead of cruising along with everyone else.
Also at the least Islamics don't rape 6 yr old boys on a regular basis.
Real, I don't see how you could most of the interpret the Bible quotes in any other way. I went back and read them over again, a couple you could swing the other way. I still need an explanation for most of them.
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