Christianity

^ I am just laughing Dan ... that's all.

Oscar, I'll help run that site! HAHA

By the way ... Thanks, Jay. And I do believe your assessment is right on, seems though that during the "note taking process" of said lesson/sermon someone fell asleep and missed a few points about showing your butt to a room full of .....

Originally posted by A7XandCoasters

Im a christian but i accept all religions.

Probably the most proposterous statement said in all of CC/WWS history.

But, CKW tried to compete!

Originally posted by CoasterkidmwmNo they're being beat and sent to prison because history has shown that missionaries are notorious for doing things like ignoring the Holocaust, hosting elaborate money making scams, and severely slowing the progress of civil rights movements.

Also another completely ignorant statement. For someone who obviously loves their science and has amassed a pretty good wealth of knowledge, why do you insist on being so ignorant to the topic of religion WHEN you spend SO much time dealing in it?

Someone who hosts elaborate money making scams are SCAM ARTISTS, not missionaries. Ignoring the Holocaust? Not sure where you are even going, but Im pretty certain it wouldnt result in Missionary work.


Do research on what the definition of a Missionary is. Not what your world view has taught you, or, what your own personal ideology of it is.

You have what a person/object appears to be and then you have what it is. Two COMPLETELY different things. And in Science, thats a commonality I would think even you are familiar with. What it may appear to be - may not be what it actually is. And in nature, a lot of insects and other animals make their lives impostering - just like a lot of humans.


Dont try to infect your world view and twisted ideology of religion and christianity when you havent spent much time in it. I respect your knowledge in geology and in overall general science but you consistantly use ignorant theology and prove the time you spend in it is far too little to enter into a theological discussion.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Originally posted by Real
Someone who hosts elaborate money making scams are SCAM ARTISTS, not missionaries.

It has been proven numerous times that the "send 79 cents a day to feed _____ scam results in only 1/4 of the money getting sent to the actual kid and the church pocketing 3/4 of it.

Originally posted by Real
Ignoring the Holocaust?

Pope Pius XII is notorious for saving people from the Nazi's "for a small fee".

Originally posted by Real
Do research on what the definition of a Missionary is. Not what your world view has taught you, or, what your own personal ideology of it is.

I know exactly what a missionary is, and I'm saying that they get the slack because their leaders in general do far less good than bad. That's the reason why missionaries get attacked a great deal of time.

Originally posted by Real
Dont try to infect your world view and twisted ideology of religion and christianity when you havent spent much time in it.

I went to Catholic school through 8th grade and have been confirmed.

Well, that may explain a lot actually. But I dont think going to a Catholic school through 8th grade does much. I havent known many who have that seem to have anything but a rather awkward view of the texts. Especially since I have yet to meet a Catholic who has any real knowledge of the original texts or anything beyond simply the words they read. No historical context. No context at all rather, just taking the words straight off the page and saying thats how it is. Which is, to me, complete ignorance.


But you still miss my point.

Missionaries dont get attacked because they are associated with a certain leader. I highly doubt in these hot zone locations they are asked "WHO DO YOU SERVE!" and based on their response, then get beaten, tortured or jailed.

I would argue that most simply reply "Jesus" or "God" and because of the "threat" of freedom from a nations religion or ideology, are therefore takin and jailed, etc. Look at the countries where this happens most (China for example) and you see a communist regiem that enforces its own "religion" upon its people. Or pretty much any state/country where this happens it happens because of a fear that these christians will somehow revolt or just basically not agree with the oppresion they are under. Its in history books, the bible and historical texts. When enough people realize they are being oppressed they will want out of it. Sometimes they use violence, other times not. But that oppression is really a result of weak, tyrannical leadership that fears its own people and wont even let a body of people live, play and worship as they feel.


BTW, you note a Pope that obviously was completely screwed in the head. Doesnt that, along with hundreds of years of other issues clue you into wondering just how solid the catholic religion/faith is? Or just how sound its theology + practice of it is? I know every religion has its whack jobs and such and cannot be based on that but it seems to go far beyond that.

Its another topic all to itself and I would be interested to hear from you about it because what I know, which isnt enough, but still enough to see that its not what the original Church intended, not at ALL! I find most of the Catholic faith in general to be hypocritical and in no way falling in line with Biblical texts. I think Ill start one up, and see if it doesnt get locked in 24.2 seconds.

hey 19121, i think you need to get your head out of your a** and at least look into some scientific stuff before ranting about your religous stuff. although that would probably be to hard for you seeing you seem to be like many other(not saying all) thick headed christians out there that dont listen to others opinions. you probably just turn the other way when you hear anything other then your used to hearing like many of the people in my school and else where. but i guess thats yours choice to live that way, so closed minded and all. have fun with that though.

any of the other christians on here, this does not apply to you due to that fact that you guys have done your research and have reasons for believing so. i actually have respect for you guys. i do not have any for 19121 cause he just seems to be going off of what he hears and not from looking into to things to see why he believes it.

Originally posted by TConwell

And I do believe your assessment is right on, seems though that during the "note taking process" of said lesson/sermon someone fell asleep and missed a few points about showing your butt to a room full of .....

Hmmm, someone likes to assume they know everyone.

[Coasterkidmwm]

In addition to my missionary statement, what isn't helping them is the huge degree of arrogance that tags along with Christianity as a whole no matter how much someone intends it not to. People loudly yapping about their faith and trying to pass legislation that affects all because their faith says so is rather arrogant to other people who believe something else.

For example take Jewish people. Find me a Jew who tries to convert some to judism. You can't. It's because they keep to themselves in terms of being vocal and largely don't convert people unless a married couple wishes for one of the spouses to be converted. There are no bills in congress to forbide working on Saturdays etc because it's their "right" according to texts because they as a whole shut the hell up about their religion and let everyone around them live in peace.

On the opposite spectrum are the Christian people who are running around "spreading the word of Christ", constantly trying to force their way into as many aspects of life and schooling as possible (using mostly stuff from the Old Testament, the JEWISH test that they quite frankly stole and built upon), and in general just do not shut up and "go away" from the public eye.

If a buddhist was running around trying to get you to convert all the time, holding signs with passage quotes everywhere, and trying to pass buddhist based bills in congress, people would get pissed off because it's a tad arrogant and selfish.

I know all people do not loudly yap about their faith and run around holding signs (no I'm not thinking of the Westboro baptist church), it's just rather frustrating that everyone except Christians cannot say a damn thing because it's "attacking faith", yet Christians are allowed to pretty much do whatever. It all boils down to was is fair and what isn't.

Yay, another Christian! That makes what, like five of us?

I laugh at the bible!
As it sais in the begginning god created the light before the sun ????
how is that possible????????:P

With a light bulb?

no i dont think so......

Originally posted by GerstlCrazy


Hmmm, someone likes to assume they know everyone.

Congrats on yet another post that goes nowhere, and adds nothing of substance. Well done. Fail.

Oscar, can we get an IP check of mister "90210" over there?

TConwell: How are you talking to me about posts that go nowhere? You and jayman don't have any stance to be telling me that what I believe is all fake. It's straight disrespect especially considering you have no idea who I am.

So before you comment towards people for adding nothing to a thread, realize that you are committing the same crime by falsely and ignorantly accusing someone of something that you know strictly nothing about.

Originally posted by 19121

for one thing it only rained for 40 days and nights there was a countless number of days after the flood when the flood waters where
going down back into the earth and atmosphere if the flood waters where over 30,000 feet above sea level imagine how long it would of taken for the flood waters to do that and the whole thing isn't coral there is a solid rock base under the reef so the whole thing isn't coral but some of it is in the higher places .

Your a foolish Christian to begin with. Christians don't even believe that the stories in the bible took place such as the flood, adam and eve etc. Its all symbolism, a way of telling you what is wrong what is right and how God, can help you. Even the most devout Christians aren't radically literalistic like yourself. Religion today is all about contextualism, seeing the moral to the story sorry to say you don't understand you own religion...

^Really? Hmm...

CKW, Christians didnt steal the Old Testament! LOL The very basis for Christianity is Jesus and when He states that He came not to abolish the Torah, but the fullfill it, its pretty clear that you cant have the OT as a basis! If anything the only thing used from Judaism was the firts 5 books but as noted, you cant have the rest without that!

Originally posted by GerstlCrazy
So before you comment towards people for adding nothing to a thread, realize that you are committing the same crime by falsely and ignorantly accusing someone of something that you know strictly nothing about.

Well, in all fairness, he has to know something about you. Its not like you cant learn about people when you spend years with them even on message boards. So either you have been someone else while on here, or you are pretty true to yourself. Either way, he can only go on the image you portray.

Youd have no one to blame but yourself for how he takes you, right? Kinda playing devils advocate kinda like you are...

Christians believe everything the bible sais maybe yor thinking of another thing, and im not mad or anything i'm pretty freekin relaxed, for the past coupe of days iv'e geen eatin chicken and drinking cups uf gravy!

[quote]Originally posted by Oscar

So you could say I could be married in heaven and then...perverted crap.

no! that is very stupid to even think! sin is anything that displeases God, and Lewis is right! sex isnt a sin but having sex when your not married is because that is commiting adaultry and lust!

please don't put any more of your perverted crap on here and please no cussing! believe it or not there are kids on here that shouldn't here that!

We care why? By the way... this is a pretty good read. lol

Originally posted by guitarplayer673

Originally posted by 19121

how did I misread you kevin B. all you said is what is right and what is proof, and that religion is a narcisissm but the thing that seperates us from other beings is that we have souls a large pourpus to live, and on an astronomical scale what are you talking about earth is the only planet that supports life in the universe there is no other planet with living things unless your chillin' out with some martians in a cool extra teresstrial spaceship with cable TV then I dont wanna hear your alien bull!

Haha, on an astronomical scale there has to be other life out there. We are definitely not alone in the universe, especially seeing that it only took a couple hundred thousand years for life to spring up here.

Edit: Looks like you beat me to it, I will never understand how it is more interesting for people to think we're the only ones here than to think that there are other forms of consciousness out there...

I know there aren't aliens in the universe because God sais in Genisis 1:20-34 that God created creatures of the land and the fowl of the air, he didn't say anything about little green people to live on mars!I said there aren't other planets that support life, but i was wrong there might be but that doesnt mean there are! astronomical scale in ratio to planets that should be able to support life means nothing!!! just because there are so many fish in the ocean doesnt mean one of them can build a coumputer! people are waisting millions of dollars on extra terrestrial finding programs but the sad truth is they have always and will always come up negitive!!! AND IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE BIG BANG THEREOY then how can you believe in aliens!!! the chances of creating one living cell in a superexplosion is one in (number with lots of letters) and that happening twice!!! even though I know the big bang and evalution not to be true! this is sill interestig!

Originally posted by 19121



I know there aren't aliens in the universe because God sais in Genisis 1:20-34 that God created creatures of the land and the fowl of the air, he didn't say anything about little green people to live on mars!I said there aren't other planets that support life, but i was wrong there might be but that doesnt mean there are! astronomical scale in ratio to planets that should be able to support life means nothing!!! just because there are so many fish in the ocean doesnt mean one of them can build a coumputer! people are waisting millions of dollars on extra terrestrial finding programs but the sad truth is they have always and will always come up negitive!!! AND IF YOU BELIEVE IN THE BIG BANG THEREOY then how can you believe in aliens!!! the chances of creating one living cell in a superexplosion is one in (number with lots of letters) and that happening twice!!! even though I know the big bang and evalution not to be true! this is sill interestig!

Do they have to be little green people on other planets? Other planets have physical ground and atmosphere, so it IS possible. Why would God pick this planet as the only one in the universe with life? I tend to believe that we are not the only ones, but am still unsure about whether we are or not.

Also, about the BBT. If there was one organism made for Earth, why is it not possible that a few more could have been made for somewhere else?

Originally posted by Oscar

How about this, show us scientific proof the bible is right.

I already know where this topic is going. I go get some popcorn!

The bible's generall meaning(that it is the word of God and it is the way to heaven) I cannot give proof to back up, you must believe without proof. But the many stories in the Bible can be proven true. the Bible is lots of stories written by lots of people from different places speaking different languages That all come together to form a book is proof enough to me that it is real! anything in the Bible can be proven true nomadder what THEORIES are thrown at it.

Originally posted by Real

Youd have no one to blame but yourself for how he takes you, right? Kinda playing devils advocate kinda like you are...

Meh...I'll be easy =P

because even though i know there is no chance the chance would be very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very (big breath) small.

[Oscar]

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