It's Official: Texas Giant Gets A Makeover!

Originally posted by slosprint

Jcoasters, what if you built something straight up? that would be unaffected by the earth's curvature and be straight. Not saying that you couldn't build something straight horizontally, just pointing out that you haven't even begun to think through the argument you are making.

since the earth is curved, every millimeter, every tiny spot, has a different angle then the one next to it. So lets say there was a steel bar that was 12 feet tall, with a 1 foot width and a one foot length. Most of it would be on a surface that is not parallel with it, so not verticle.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Originally posted by Jcoasters
With the sediment thing:

the earth is curved! so gravity is not straight, it is curved! there fore it settles curved due to the gravity of the earth following the earth which is curved!

Gravity doesn't "follow the earth", so I still win. Gravity map below:

Originally posted by Jcoasters
Steel thing:

The factory and machines are slightly bent since gravity is curved with the earth, so the steel will come out slightly bent.

Gravity doesn't curve with the earth, so you totally fail and lose. I win.

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

Originally posted by Jcoasters
With the sediment thing:

the earth is curved! so gravity is not straight, it is curved! there fore it settles curved due to the gravity of the earth following the earth which is curved!

Gravity doesn't "follow the earth", so I still win. Gravity map below:

Originally posted by Jcoasters
Steel thing:


The factory and machines are slightly bent since gravity is curved with the earth, so the steel will come out slightly bent.

Gravity doesn't curve with the earth, so you totally fail and lose. I win.

Oh My God you are so stupid! The earth is rounded... gravity is rounded with the earth. So, from china to California, the gravity is different because the earth is rounded.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Do you understand the gravity anomaly map?

Originally posted by boneplaya

Lol this is really, really entertaining. Jcoasters, your statement about "airtime on any slope" is so wrong its not even funny. In fact, the truth is the opposite, and for the same reasons you used to "prove" your statement. Airtime is less than 0 G, and thus if you're on a straight piece of track sloped between 0 and 90 degrees, you will never experience airtime. Hence why roller coasters have curved track. CKMWM, a body of water on earth (or any planet for that matter) will appear flat, but it's actually slightly spherical. You should know that. That's what (I think) jcoasters was talking about. Your bit about the mineral is probably true as well, but I honestly don't know enough about that to say anything.

hmmm, airtime is indeed less then 0 gz, but g acceleration =

f g=m g(r),
m is the mass of a particle,
r is the position vector of the particle
and f is a force vector(i like those)
so you can feel this so called "air time"

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

Do you understand the gravity anomaly map?

yes I do.

Notice how the gravity on one side of the earth is facing a different direction then on the opposite side. same with every curve of the earth. The gravity is in a different direction.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Does anyone have a montage of facepalms in gif image form they could post?

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

Does anyone have a montage of facepalms in gif image form they could post?

does that work? and by the way, the facepalm is for you. since you cannot understand anything that does not have numbers and takes common sense to understand

[Coasterkidmwm]

Like comma usage?

[Oscar]

and periods.

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

Like comma usage?

That is irrelevant to the topic and you are clearly posting it to have a comeback from a battle you know you just lost.

[Coasterkidmwm]

Except I didn't because I have a figure of gravity anomalies and you're just babbling. You have provided no proof of anything whatsoever.

[Oscar]

I got proof, Jesus said so. I instawin!

[Coasterkidmwm]

Raptor-Jesus trumps normal Jesus, and Raptor-Jesus agrees with the gravity anomaly map.

Originally posted by Coasterkidmwm

Except I didn't because I have a figure of gravity anomalies and you're just babbling. You have provided no proof of anything whatsoever.

lol you cant prove anything. Does gravity exist? kinda. In our universe it does, but in other dimensions and parallel universes who says it does?

Jcoasters, please stop speaking. You're 100% wrong on almost everything you've said.

Yes Earth is curved, and no that doesn't mean everything on Earth is too. Nothing will be "perfectly" straight...if you look at razor blades under a microscope, you will see that the edge is quite rough. So these sediment flats and things like that won't be perfect flat. However, you have to think within reason, and that's what you're not doing at all right now. Lets please get past that part of your argument, because it's incredibly silly and illogical.

Just because Earth is curved doesn't mean everything on Earth is. Consider a flat line ontop of a circle. If that were earth and the line was long enough, you'd notice that the ends are higher than the middle, assuming a perfectly round Earth (which is not the case). Generally, things like steel are "perfectly" straight, and the only reason I put perfectly in quotations is because of what I said in the last paragraph. I know of at least one case where engineers had to design something so long that they had to follow the curve of the Earth. There's some Navy engineering facility in...Virginia or something where they have a tube that's like 1/4 mile long, and they had to make it curve say an inch over the length. Those numbers are from memory, and it's been a while, but the point is they had to intentionally make it curved.

And are you really arguing anything other than the standard definition of airtime on a roller coaster site? Why would you use that term if you mean anything aside from forces less than say ~.2G on the vertical axis? Also, what you said about Kingda Ka is wrong. As someone else noted, if you stopped while going down, you'd experience 1G pushing you forward into the harness...the normal sensation of gravity. As is, you're at ~0G for the vertical section. 0G artime can be created either through hill curvature with a given radius, or a slope of 90*.

And gravity is not curved, at least not in the way you're saying. Earth is a circle, and gravity points straight toward the center. It's really not a hard concept. What you said about gravity being curved because Earth is curved makes no sense at all.

Jcoasters, I can prove gravity exists (not that I should even reply to that ludicrous reasoning). Jump up. I guarantee you will come back down. Proof complete.


Hey look, a bunch of straight lines!

Wow. Just... wow. So many fails on so many levels in the last page-and-a-half...

Wow, semantics can be fun. You guys do realize that you are all right to some degree and you are all wrong to some degree. No, there is no such thing as a "true" straight or flat surface. Our understanding of straight and flat is based on what we see as flat; however, the differences you are arguing are so minute that in order for it to be slightly noticeable to the naked eye, it would have to stretch for many miles, In other words, it is all relative.

Exactly spacemountain, hence why some of the previous arguments are just silly.

Isn't that why we love these forums, though?

I could do without some of the lack of logic lol.

Back on topic, I am still not impressed, as I stated before, it looks like the train may valley on the transition into the MCBR. Am I the only one who thought the train was going way too slow going into the MCBR?

[gouldy]

I can't believe I missed this! Ah well, it's been a good read this morning while I have been procrastinating at work.

Jcoasters is just sat there: "Magnets, how do they work? Ya'll scientists be lyin' and gettin' me pissed".

Everyone else: Facepalm.

"Jcoasters is just sat there"

Huh? What does that even mean? I don't think you're allowed to facepalm anyone when speaking like that, lol.