October Quarterly Contest 2015- Results Posted

[Blase Rhine]

rcdude wrote:

A few questions due to things I've encountered with my design:

1. How will G-Forces be measured? I've noticed a few points in my ride where the comb says they are within the official requirements but a specific car in the train (typically the back) reads a bit higher than the acceptable range.

2. Will round or square tunnels be used to test for clearance?

3. I've got 4 potential unique elements on my coaster and I'd like to make sure at least two would be accepted as unique elements. Do any of the following not qualify as a unique element?

To answer your questions:

1. G force measures will be measured in the actual simulation when riding.

2. Either is fine

3. All 3 are considered unique except the last one. I wouldn't consider high speed banked turns as unique as many RMC do have this type of quality.


Hope this helps

Really loving the creativity of these! How would you guys feel if I retweeted some of these photos on the CoasterCrazy social media pages?

Feel free to use these if you wish

Blase Rhine wrote:

rcdude wrote:

A few questions due to things I've encountered with my design:

1. How will G-Forces be measured? I've noticed a few points in my ride where the comb says they are within the official requirements but a specific car in the train (typically the back) reads a bit higher than the acceptable range.

2. Will round or square tunnels be used to test for clearance?

3. I've got 4 potential unique elements on my coaster and I'd like to make sure at least two would be accepted as unique elements. Do any of the following not qualify as a unique element?

To answer your questions:

1. G force measures will be measured in the actual simulation when riding.

2. Either is fine

3. All 3 are considered unique except the last one. I wouldn't consider high speed banked turns as unique as many RMC do have this type of quality.


Hope this helps

Thanks, that helps a lot. Looks like I need to tweak a couple spots to reduce forces, but other than that my layout should be good to go.

Guess, I'll post a pic too

You can use my pictures

TTD03 wrote:

Not an official judge but Hanging Curve and Triple Down are unique!

I'm not a participant this time, either, but I completely agree with you!

[mkingy]

Blase Rhine wrote:

To answer your questions:

1. G force measures will be measured in the actual simulation when riding.

2. Either is fine

3. All 3 are considered unique except the last one. I wouldn't consider high speed banked turns as unique as many RMC do have this type of quality.


Hope this helps

Erm. I was using the clearance envelope object... is this okay or no?

[Blase Rhine]

Yes of course it is! That's what the clearance will be measured for the entire track. I guess he was just talking about the tunnel clearance.

[mkingy]

Blase Rhine wrote:

Yes of course it is! That's what the clearance will be measured for the entire track. I guess he was just talking about the tunnel clearance.

In NL1.x you had to use tunnels to "tunnel test" due to the lack of a clearance envelope. I presumed he was referring to this. I could be wrong though.

My only issue with when people test clearance is that in real life the majority of rides don't. The way I normally test is just to make sure that it's out of accidental reach, which is a smaller envelope then the nl2 one.

[mkingy]

Are you suggesting that when rollercoaster designers design a ride they don't use a clearance envelope or that they do but the NL2 one is wrong?

[Metazoanhaddock]

there will be some flexibility in our using the clearance envelope to test. seeing as tunnels themselves sometimes intrude on the envelope despite being built in, there will be a certain degree of "touches", so to speak, that will be allowed. that being said, try to avoid these situations if possible, it's still rather easy to make near misses without running the risk of intruding on the envelope

FuriousHornet wrote:

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Unique?

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I am talking about the step up to the 90-degree turn.

mkingy wrote:

Blase Rhine wrote:

Yes of course it is! That's what the clearance will be measured for the entire track. I guess he was just talking about the tunnel clearance.

In NL1.x you had to use tunnels to "tunnel test" due to the lack of a clearance envelope. I presumed he was referring to this. I could be wrong though.

Clearance envelope? This is the first I've heard about that. I've been using the old-school tunnel test, but I guess I should give this one a try. Using the circular tunnels, my ride doesn't have any issues and the square tunnels just have one or two spots where corners clip each other, so it should pass the clearance test.

[mkingy]

rcdude wrote:

mkingy wrote:

Blase Rhine wrote:

Yes of course it is! That's what the clearance will be measured for the entire track. I guess he was just talking about the tunnel clearance.

In NL1.x you had to use tunnels to "tunnel test" due to the lack of a clearance envelope. I presumed he was referring to this. I could be wrong though.

Clearance envelope? This is the first I've heard about that. I've been using the old-school tunnel test, but I guess I should give this one a try. Using the circular tunnels, my ride doesn't have any issues and the square tunnels just have one or two spots where corners clip each other, so it should bass the clearance test.

Scenery tab-> choose -> library -> demo objects -> clearance envelope

Place in near a train and run the simulator!

mkingy wrote:

Scenery tab-> choose -> library -> demo objects -> clearance envelope

Place in near a train and run the simulator!

Thanks, I'll give this a try. I wasn't even aware NoLimits 2 had this feature, so it will help with this and other projects.

TTD03 wrote:

Really loving the creativity of these! How would you guys feel if I retweeted some of these photos on the CoasterCrazy social media pages?

Here's a few of my ride that actually look decent. Feel free to use them or anything else I've posted.

mkingy wrote:

Are you suggesting that when rollercoaster designers design a ride they don't use a clearance envelope or that they do but the NL2 one is wrong?

They do use check clreance using a similar envelope, but its not as strict as nl2's is. For example, a perfect arrow loop comes no where close to passing the clearance envelope test but in real life it is far enough away that you would have to put effort into hitting it. Millenium is another good example, there are several supports that are possible to hit, not just the one that got shaved off.

I am confused about the template. Why do the purple and yellow areas overlap? What do I do in this situation?

[Metazoanhaddock]

your question has been answered multiple times in this thread already.....no track can be placed in between the purple and the yellow, it must be below the purple, and above the yellow

Metazoanhaddock wrote:

your question has been answered multiple times in this thread already.....no track can be placed in between the purple and the yellow, it must be below the purple, and above the yellow

Sorry for asking... I just wanted personal clarification. Thank you for the help.

Just thought I would upload my progress. You can put these on twitter if you wish.

[Metazoanhaddock]

FuriousHornet wrote:

Metazoanhaddock wrote:

your question has been answered multiple times in this thread already.....no track can be placed in between the purple and the yellow, it must be below the purple, and above the yellow

Sorry for asking... I just wanted personal clarification. Thank you for the help.

no need to be sorry, it's what we're here for, but for future reference, if you have a question, i'd personally look through the topic first to see if it's been answered because i answered the same question in much more detail earlier, and that may be more useful than a half-assed answer when im groggy after having just woken up lol

Metazoanhaddock wrote:

no need to be sorry, it's what we're here for, but for future reference, if you have a question, i'd personally look through the topic first to see if it's been answered because i answered the same question in much more detail earlier, and that may be more useful than a half-assed answer when im groggy after having just woken up lol

Lol I will do so from now on.

After a long day in support hell, my ride is looking amazing.

^Those supports sure are dank.