Gas over $3 a gallon!!!

Beans to the rescue!!![shocked] *Poooot!!!*

I know this will matter to some, but please pray. We have family members from our church members who are missing ...

We have to pay something like 1.330 ?????????/litre [:(]



EDIT: 1.5!!

Jeez, I wish the car companies would get those fuel cell cars out faster... once the car market switches to hydrogen power, we will have an infinitely renewable energy source, and you will actually be able to fill up your car at home. In 10 years, fossil fuels will stop dissapearing so fast because everyone will be free from the clutches of middle east oil dependancy.

Originally posted by cjd

Jeez, I wish the car companies would get those fuel cell cars out faster... once the car market switches to hydrogen power, we will have an infinitely renewable energy source, and you will actually be able to fill up your car at home. In 10 years, fossil fuels will stop dissapearing so fast because everyone will be free from the clutches of middle east oil dependancy.

Amen to that. Exactly what Im talking about. They just need to start pouring some money into the development. I hear that Iceland or one of those counties over there already has a hydrogen station with a few H2 cars.

the problem with this whole thing is the fact that america is so spread out. the presidents do not want to tax gas, b/c theyll be unpopular and they wont be relected. they should tax it so they can make more money so they can use it to build trains that are good (amtrak is a joke)or alternate fuel ways. id get use to it. it will cost around 3 bucks for all of atternity. the hurricane didnt help it, but i dont see gas going down to nothing. unless of course hydrogen cars come about. then gas will be like 25 cents a gallon.

The US need bullet trains. I rode them most of my trip in Europe. The trains are fast and smooth. Pretty much the same things you want in a coaster.

I have a guess that the reason we haven't seen whole-hearted development in Fuel Cell technology is that the Oil companies are keeping it down. (Much like how the Alcohol industry may be preventing the legalization of [CENSORED WORD]) It seems that these powerful oil companies hold a strong monopoly on the automotive industry.

Why should these companies switch to hydrogen fuel? Any Joe with the proper equipment -- and a healthy capital -- could manufacture hydrogen fuel with water, (Or what ever other molecule is used in production) and would instantly become a competitor. Oil, on the other hand, is not infinite. If one wants access to oil fuel, one can only obtain it through the major oil companies, as there are few competitors in this market. That said, these oil companies can charge what ever they please for their precious liquid, and the public has no choice but to pay up. (And the public is doing just that.) No, I do not see hydrogen fuel in the near future.

Also I have heard before that even when new, practical ways of producing hydrogen fuel are developed, the oil companies buy up the patents to ensure that they never become a reality.

Anyway, those are only my thoughts.

On the french-fry oil idea, we have a diesel truck and have been seriously considering making the modifications. I heard Diesel originally invented his motor with the intention of using food-oil. <-- (For lack of better term)

You are correct Nate. The Oil companies buy the patents to most of the new technologies coming out and sit on them for a long, long time.

However when it all comes down to the end of oil everyone will suffer - even the oil companies. Sure they will have more money than they know what to do with but when they have no way to get around or the other numerous problems that will surface, Ill just laugh.

I do think well see oil start to run out by the end of my lifetime or get close.


At some point the oil companies will have to start looking into those patents. Heck, they own them, JUST START MAKING MONEY by developing them. I dont care if I pay the same price or something, I just dont need to be dependant on one thing.

Hydrogen power? The first problem is you will need a fusion reactor to get energy from water. We only have Fission reactors at the moment and the only fusion generator we have is the sun itself. I believe the process involoes heating hydrogen atoms to 3 million degrees celcious to release pure energy....I dont think that having a fusion reactor in your car would be a whole lot of good to be honest. I remember readin about it that Japan were looking to build a fusion reactor

It's going to take a long time to build a small, efficient and safe fusion reactor. The only fusion reactions humans have made so far have been uncontrolled. That fusion reaction was the hydrogen bomb.

Yes, fusion would provide an infinate energy source, but it's not likely to happen anytime soon. On a large scale anyway, but not like you would need that because in theory one fusion reaction provides exponetially more power than the world uses in an entrie day.

Real I think you on to something with that lightning energy thing. If engeineers could figure out a way to lessen that surge that comes along with the lightning, this could be the greatest and safest of all energy sources, and we could just plug our cars in.

Well, for the lighning, we could use some very large resistors. Resistors would dissapate the electricity of the lighning in the form of heat. We could use the heat to boil water and make steam. The steam powers a turbine, which spins a magnet through an electrical field creating electricity.

Yes, that would probably the best way of doing that, but if we could find a liquid that turns into a gas faster than water and still has pretty much the same properties, imagine how much more energy we could harness by making one simple change.

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Real I think you on to something with that lightning energy thing. If engeineers could figure out a way to lessen that surge that comes along with the lightning, this could be the greatest and safest of all energy sources, and we could just plug our cars in.

Yes! Plug in my Mustang! I've always wanted to do that! I think it would be cool if we could find an energy source that could give us power, and still not have to use natural gas.

But how many fluids have the same properties of water and are liquid at room temperature? Water was one of the first things we used for energy and we will be using it for a long time to come.

we could always put solar power things on the tops of our cars....

Theres other ways of getting Hydrogen to put into solid fuel cells to power cars. Its just the way of getting it isnt practical right now because not enough places can do it.

Its not as serious as some huge plant like you speak of, but its nothing thats been around either.



You guys hit another point too. If we cant harness the actual electricity from the lightning, then at least getting the heat could help.

Too bad though they say that it can be as hot as like 30,000C. Which is, well, quite hot.

Lighning...Ow.[xx(]

Hotter than the surface of the sun, but I'm sure in the future some crazy scientist with create a compound that can withstand that heat and still conduct electricity.

i thought the surface of the sun doesnt exist? as in i always thought the sun was a ball of hot gas. im i right? cause i really have no clue.

I think he means the outer layer of the sun. I knew what that was called once, but I've forgotten.

Well here in colorado gas prices are going up, and more and more people are Filling there car up with gas and taking off. Now i think thats wrong because the store employee, has to pay for your gas if you drive off.

Originally posted by ragan

i thought the surface of the sun doesnt exist? as in i always thought the sun was a ball of hot gas. im i right? cause i really have no clue.

Everyone is being literal with me lately. You hopefully can understand what I'm saying.

Originally posted by Woodie Man

Well, for the lighning, we could use some very large resistors. Resistors would dissapate the electricity of the lighning in the form of heat. We could use the heat to boil water and make steam. The steam powers a turbine, which spins a magnet through an electrical field creating electricity.

I dont know what you just said, but there was steam engined cars along time ago, i saw a show and this guy has a steam engined car.